Cine film is a fantastic format, designed for a much longer life than video tape. You should have high expectations for what can be achieved when this old, beautiful analogue technology meets new digital technology. The Scanbox 4K by Debrie is the Big Brother of the Memory HD, which I had been using, with great success, since 2009. It is a major upgrade and the Scanbox 4K was installed at the back end of 2020. The 2K (2048 x 1500) images of even standard 8mm can be truly stunning and everything is just sharper 12 years on. So, whether you have found a mysterious single 50ft. reel in an old drawer or have 100s of reels in a museum or family collection give me a call and I will be happy to answer any questions you may have about the best way forward with your archive however big or small.
Hi Chris, It really is refreshing to deal with someone who is thoroughly professional, efficient, helpful and courteous. My old 1930’s black & white films are now easy to watch and enjoy. Chris has cleaned, spliced, edited and titled them in an expert way, adding appropriate music. He even personalised the cover of the DVD by selecting images from the films. Thank you Chris David Berglas “International Man Of Mystery” Past President of The Magic Circle
For all cinefilm archives I will be using the superb, new “Scanbox 4K”, manufactured by Debrie Technology of Paris.
This can capture cine film in ……
4K (4096 x 3000)
Computer files can be saved in just about any codec / format / size you want.
MP4 between 8GB and 40GB per hour (h.264)
Avid DnxHR .mxf between 77GB and 88GB per hour
Call me to talk through your needs if you are unsure about what you might want.
Most of my competitors do not name the equipment they use, or who manufactures it and do not show a picture of it but just use phrases like “State of the art” which means nothing. Do ask what system they use and who makes it, then check it out on Google. I have invested a lot of time and money in the best equipment in the world for digitising small format cinefilm. I am really proud of it which is why I am happy to tell you all about it. Just buying a £500 4K camera doesn’t qualify as state of the art.
I have the only “Scanbox 4K” in private hands in the UK & Ireland because I have been prepared to invest in the very best.
Please see the sample video - further down the page - or the video explanation of how the Scanbox 4K works by clicking on the image to the right or the “Workflow, Stability and Sound” tabMore info
Over the last few years I have noticed a significant shift away from DVD and Blu-Ray discs (see my blog). The quality of disc based archives is so much lower than can be achieved that I have decided that “disc only” archives from cine film will no longer be an option. I will always happily make a disc if it meets your requirement but only as part of a disc / file archive. Most people are now concerned with getting the very best possible digital computer file for playback on a laptop, editing, streaming, uploading and sending around the world. For PC or MAC computer files I am archiving cine film as 2K (2048 x 1500) and 4K (4096 x 3000) and am finding that for the majority of customers 2K is the most popular choice.
For smaller archives or archives using MP4 (h.264 format) at 22GB per hour output format we can just use wetransfer.com to upload / download the files.
For large archives and archives in DPX or Avid DnxHR (.mxf format) I will need a USB hard disc drive. You can send one with your films or I can supply a quality Hard Drive.More info
The simplest way to get things moving is to either give me a call or drop me an email. We can go through what you have in your archive and what you are trying to achieve.
Call: 01793 495733 (office) or 07940 810733 (mobile)
email: email@example.com - for further details check the “Contact” page.
To be able to give you an accurate quote I will need to know how many reels / feet of film you have. Check out the “Formats Accepted and Reel Sizes” section for further information on this or just give me a call.
You are more than welcome to bring your cine film / video / photographic archive here and we can go through it in person, adhering to safety protocols. Just get in touch and we can work out an appointment that will suit you. If you wish to use the postal service then I recommend using Royal Mail Special Delivery.
Address: Chris Squires, Save Those Memories, 3 Lovell Close, Swindon, Wiltshire, SN3 5BT
Please include in your package a covering letter with your return and contact details / phone number / email address.
Let me know the format you want the films saved as - Disc and/or Computer files (PC or MAC) at 2K or 4K.More info
Grain and Noise: I had the opportunity to move up from HD a couple of years ago with different machinery. The reason I didn’t was the feeling that the grain and digital noise of 8mm film would make the final 2K or 4K images look worse not better. However, as you can see from the cine film sample grain and noise are just not an issue with the Scanbox 4K and the way I use it.
What is 2K?: 2K means different things to different people and the big difference is whether you present the image as widescreen 16:9 or the older standard 4:3. For me 4:3 is much better, it’s closer to the original shape of the cine film and gives a much larger image size. The Scanbox 4K presents it’s 2K images as 2048 x 1500 in a perfect 4:3 format. That’s a lot of resolution. Much better than what many present as 2K which would be 2048 x 1080 in 16:9 widescreen so the viable image of that would be about 1650 x 1080 because the columns needed to create the widescreen will waste about 400 pixels of width. The Scanbox 4K has a massive vertical resolution of 1500 which really makes the images stand out, particularly if you ever plan to play your films on a 4K TV. Most smart TVs will play the 2048 x 1500 images in 4:3 and create their own columns, keeping the cine film in 4:3 thereby utilizing the whole 2048 x 1500.
Speed correction: 8mm, 9.5mm or 16mm cine films were generally shot at 16, 18 or 24 frames per second. Modern digital files run at 25fps. Frames, somehow have to be added. Editing programs (such as Premiere Pro and Edius) offer several ways of altering the speed of film and for customers who just want to play their films on a TV or PC then I will make the speed corrections for you. However, if you feel that you want to do your own editing and make your own speed alterations then I can provide the films at pure 25fps, where 1 frame of video equals one frame of film in true 1:1 ratio. So, any changes you might make are 1st generation changes. If I change the speed for you and then you want to change the speed afterwards it’ll be a 2nd generation change. Plainly it’s better to change the speed only once. So, please ask me to leave your films at 25fps if you plan to do your own editing. Otherwise, I will change the images to the standard cine film speed for that format. either 16fps, 18fps or 24fps depending on how it was originally shot